Spaten Optimator by Spaten-Franziskaner-Löwenbräu-Gruppe

Rating: 5/5

Spaten Optimator by Spaten-Franziskaner-Löwenbräu-Gruppe is a 7.6% ABV German Doppelbock

The classic German dark beer, bottom fermented ’Doppel Bock’. Full bodied with a deep dark color and rich roasted malt flavor. Supposedly only available in USA, at least not in Germany. 

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It’s been years since this beer.. But even more so for this game.. Now it’s found a place both can call home. Bringing my childhood Bock

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Optímator by Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu

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Optímator by Spaten-Franziskaner-Bräu is a 7.6% ABV German DoppelBock

The classic German dark beer, bottom fermented ’Doppel Bock’. Full bodied with a deep dark color and rich roasted malt flavor. 

Supposedly only available in USA, at least not in Germany.

First had this beer with several coworkers on draft at the Red Lion in Downtown LA after visiting a brewery, which I will not name here because they were good in their own awesome way (Love that Sunny-D beer). As I remember it, it was so impacting that I had to try it again. From the makers of the delicious Franziskaner Dunkel which to me is the best dark heff in the world, aside from Weistephaner dunkel. Spaten makes an awesome doppelbock that attempts to take on what to me is one of the best Doppelbocks, Celebrator Doppelbock. They did a damn good job of it too as I remember. I was able to pick up a bottle locally and wanted to do a review. This is a common beer and can be picked up in many craft beer or specialty liquor shops. Even Downey Liquor in Downey California has it and they seem like a generic liquor store

Aromas are of rich figs, caramel, cinnamon, milk, sweet potatoes and yams boiled with piloncillo (Mexican sugar cone), vanilla and cinnamon sticks, rich toffee, raisins, hazelnut, cherries, oak, molasses, and chocolate

Flavors are of figs, raisins, caramel, cloves, raisin bread, cherries, rich molasses, cinnamon, sweet potato pie, yams, piloncillo, vanilla, cinnamon, toffee, hazelnut, chocolate, pecans, biscuit bread, brown sugar, whiskey notes, maple and oak

Aftertaste is of raisins, yams, cherries, vanilla, earthiness and piloncillo. Easy to moderate drinking on this one and has intense flavors even where the 7.6% ABV is nowhere to be found. 

Overall it is a damn great beer! Surely close to Celebrator in my opinion but greater to the sweeter yams than celebrator though. I will never forget how awesome it was on draft nor will I forget how much I liked this one. In terms of the style, this one is right next to my favorite Doppelbocks followed by the La Trappe Doppelbock and the Alesmith Decadence 2013 Doppelbock. Freaking unbelievable how the European beers always pull me in. Just so you know, My top 2 best common beers in the world are not even from the United States, leave that to Belgium and Canada for starting me up. Optimator is a definite try multiple times not doubt. Should be an “Octoberfest beer” requirement for sure

Dark Meddle (Beer# 11) by Gigantic brewing

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Dark Meddle (Beer# 11) by Gigantic brewing is a 5.9% Vienna Lager brewed with Piloncillo Cane Sugar

“Everyone is a moon, and has a dark side which he never shows to anybody.” – Mark Twain

Our crafty homage to the vienna-style lager brewed by our Favorite Mexican Grupo. A malty, full flavored, dark brew, made extra-smooth with Piloncillo Cane Sugar. Unleash your inner luchador!

What intrigued me to pick this beer up was the artistic label but also the fact that this was a beer made in the Vienna lager style which many darker Mexican beers are made from but with Pilloncillo Sugar cane. For many that have not had Mexican Pilloncillo cane, it is sugar that is closer to caramel. It comes in sugar cones and is used for cooking. Upon smelling this beer, I was able to pick up aromas that were very citrusy. Aromas of caramel, biscuit, orange, nuts, spices, herbs and cinnamon. The flavors are really good and very present. This maybe a lager but it is close to an ale in appearance and flavors. Caramel, hazelnut, cinnamon, sugar cane roots, earthy hops, citrus, orange peel, caramel apple, dulce de leche on biscuit bread notes, herbs and minor hoppy bitterness. If they were to amp up Negra Modelo, Victoria or Dos Equis amber into major depths of flavor and really bring out the true full potential of those beers, make them less metallic bitter and watery, then maybe you would have something close this. Sam Adams Boston lager is another example of this style but this beer taste amazing for it’s style.